Faction Champions Downed!

[[BlackOps]]

Not sure what was going on with us last night, took us all night to finally pull this stupid fight off. End result is the same in the end though. They died, we got the loots.

[[Thilyl]]

Ugh took forever, as in Stu's words "I hope someone wrote that shit down."

[[Kapla]]

Grats guys!

[[Sploojicus]]

Grats guys. I'm sorry I couldn't be there, just moved into my dorm and had problems with my PC. Had to get it fixed.

[[Sugarfootzz]]

I'm just glad we killed em. Thanks to all the people who stayed over 4hrs so we could kill these turds. Everything went alot Smoother when we had those tanks trying to keep those mobs out of the group. That was the most pissed i think i have ever seen nick, So i am glad we could kill em for ya boss man! Gratz to the turds that got the new lootz.

[[ozmannor]]

fa sho

[[Maila]]

Woah woah woah... Nick? Pissed?

Say it isn't so!

[[BlackOps]]

This was above and beyond the normal pissed. Like, I actually surpassed yelling and went to gritting my teeth in silence.

[[Maila]]

What was the anger from? Was the fight just that hard, or were people not listening / following directions?

[[Justify]]

The fight itself is easy. There's three healers that need to be killed first, so you CC two and focus one. None of the mobs can be tanked, so all of the DPS mobs target random people for a few seconds at a time. Basically, you mark a target, and then you focus on said target.

[[Eldunari]]

Originally Posted by Maila

What was the anger from? Was the fight just that hard, or were people not listening / following directions?

No he was angry because the rouge was on him the entire time LOL or at least a couple attempts

[[Thilyl]]

The concept was easy Josh, doing on the other hand wasn't. As you can tell by the 15 attempts. Lol (Also that each of them had 2.4mil HP)

[[BlackOps]]

No, I was angry for a lot of reasons, many not related directly to the raids performance while some were.

I was angry because:
1) The opposing DPS can't really be tanked and they 1 shot anyone but tanks. So basically from the time we pulled till we wiped I could go "1,2,3 - dead 1,2,3 dead, 1,2,3 - dead" and watch people just drop like flies. People die so fast that not even a NS/HT would save them, I couldn't even change targets fast enough to keep people up. It legitimately felt like healers were a complete waste of resources. I really think 3 healers would be more than enough for this encounter. Only thing we do is remove debuffs, but fuck, our cousin DPS classes can handle that.

2) CC is limited to PVP diminishing returns. In order to keep anyone one opposing faction champion more or less locked down it took 2 different CC's and even then you'd have some immune time. So by the time you CC 13 different mobs you've assigned 26 players to cc them. (ie: see the problem?) so every time we pulled someone in the raid was bitching that "the paladin is owning people, the rogue is owning people" etc...because why? YOu can't fucking lock them all down, but everyone is still bitching that something is loose.

3) No matter what order we tried to DPS anything in, it seemed we were stuck for HOURS only being able to kill the first mob regardless of what it was. Kill the Shaman first, Kill the priest first, the druid, the warrior, the deathknight, we killed the first mob, but after that, the 1,2,3 - dead had taken so much of a toll we had no CC Left and not nearly enough DPS.

4) There isn't remotely enough CC to go around and fucking retards are still using whirlwind, cleave, consecration, heartstrike, etc.. and breaking fucking CC left and right.

5) And probably the most infuriating thing for me the whole night was that nothing seemed to make it go any easier. We were changing shit up left and right to try and find that one magic tweak we were missing to get these douche bags down and no matter what we changed, where we changed CC, all we managed to do was get 1 mob down and wipe. It was retarded.

What we finally figured out from Val asking around was that the bigger DPS classes couldn't be "tanked" per se, but could be taunted and pulled way across the room, then chased, then taunted back then chased then taunted back so we could CC the rest of the mobs and the big DPS were only killing someone every 10 seconds instead of every 3, so we could atleast burn down 2-3 mobs and stay ahead of the curve.

[[Maila]]

Sounds like a blast. Can't wait for Tuesday.

[[ozmannor]]

a blast ? are u talkin bout a good time or a line of coke ?